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A Rockefeller study for a, studying the commission studying for a new society.

(L.King) - A Rockefeller study, as a study,the commission group doing a study for a new society.

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All right, you know, so about the how much were called,

(Male Caller) - The other thing is he's very much against the occult.

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that is what i know i'm really with them at most,

That's one thing I agree with them on;

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is the people that are coming to us,

the people turning to astrology.

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doctor Fresco, can you eliminate the human beings desire

Doctor Fresco, can you eliminate the human being's desire

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to find out things which you can not answer,

to find out those things which he can not answer?

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for example where we came from, and things like that.

For example where we came from, what happens after we die, and things like that.

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And what is going to happen to me tomorrow? Can you eliminate that?

What's going to happen to me tomorrow? Can you eliminate that?

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Thinking to appropriated medication you can,

(J.Fresco) - I think to appropriate mis-ineducation you can.

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we don't want to eliminate it, we just want to enable people to be able to hypothesize,

We don't want to eliminate it. We just want to enable people to be able to hypothesize

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or perhaps reconstruct the extrapolate the origin of the world we live in, and so the system and so.

or perhaps reconstruct or extrapolate the origin of the world we live in, the solar sytem and so on.

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For a basis may live from religion what this people are.

(Male Caller) - The basis mainly isn't it for religions and things like this so that people are...

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No think on people were educated on adequate and need things.

(J.Fresco) - No, I think people are educated on the whole to be inadequate and need things.

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And i think they like that they see the most for their own.

I think I'd like to see them off on their own.

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And also saw that effect of people would live forever.

(Male Caller) - You also said in the future you think that people will live forever.

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I said that is a possibility.

(J.Fresco) - I said that's a possibility.

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And then i thought negative aspects of that?

(Male Caller) - Have you ever thought of the negative aspects of that?

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Yes, i have. I don't think i know that.

(J.Fresco) - Yes, I have. I know I don't think...

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That would be like (?), somebody that live forever.

(Male Caller) - What would happen with a guy like Hitler; somebody who could live forever?

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I don't know, he was being alienated in their own spot.

(L.King) - I don't know. He'd have been annihilated in the onslaught.

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I can't think at a negative aspect, but i say some also of doubt by taking.

I can think of the negative aspects but I'll tell you something. Off the top I'd take it.

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I realized that anything is possible. But what about the actual population live on planet and...

(Male Caller) - I realize that anything is possible but what about the overpopulation? Would you just move to different planets?

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I don't know if we can do, sir...

(J.Fresco) - I really can't go beyond that, Sir.

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... out couple of years from now.

(Male Caller) -Surely it will be awfully crowded a couple of hundred years from now.

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Okay, so we have a missed show. Thanks. Okay. Hello.

(L.King) - Okay, so we'll have a mass show. Thanks. Hello?

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Hello, Larry. Yes. That's fine. Fine.

(Female caller) - Hello, Larry, how are you this morning? (L.King) - Fine.

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I'm (?) because i heard (?) this one,

(Female caller) - I called for this reason because I heard the gentleman that was on before this one.

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and, to say that everybody that see, doesn't see people how they are, i think it's very false.

To say that everybody that sees doesn't see people for what they are. I think it's very false.

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You wouldn't say everybody. Well, because i never judge people on what they look like.

(L.King) - He didn't say everybody. (Female caller) - Well, because I never judge people on what they look like.

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I just tell them how they keep the way of what they do, not that how they look like.

I judge them on how they keep their word and what they do, not by what they look like.

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Do you say that your average in respect?

(L.King) - Do you say that you're average in that respect?

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I know a quite of people that do that, i know anybody a nickle for a dollar.

(Female Caller) - I know quite a few people that do that. I'll loan anybody a nickle to a dollar

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And this is about he said the members now send kept back a little bit a mind of...

just to find out if they remember to keep their word to pay it back because it's worth that little bit of money.

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You would say that you are running a test?

(L.King) - That's like you're running a test.

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No, i mean, like, you know, you working on a card with your mind is not a test, but if...

(Female Caller) - No, I mean you work hard for your money. It's not a test but...

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Someone might give you back a dollar, and you get five, and next week you run away?

(L.King) - Someone might give you back a dollar to get five next week and run away.

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No, i'm saying basically you can find a lot by people just for that, because i don't know people...

(Female Caller) - What I'm saying basically is you can find out a lot about people just by that because I don't loan people...

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Well, what you are certainly saying is that you respect these gentleman's thoughts,

(L.King) - Wouldn't you certainly say that you respected the gentleman's thoughts?

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and the gentleman is getting blind, and found that is having a better life for himself,

The gentleman has gone blind, and felt he found a better life for himself.

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and i felt that was usually interesting?

I felt that was usually interesting.

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No, i don't mean that, i mean the point is to say that people around that see all blind,

(Female Caller) - No, I don't mean that. I mean the point is to say that people are all blind.

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they can't see things on what they really are.

They can't see things for what they really are.

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I didn't say that, i said most people, and i would tend to agree with them.

(L.King) - He didn't say that. He said most people, and I would tend to agree with him.

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And you can say most people had bad manners, and i feel other things. Correct.

(Female Caller) - You could say most people had bad manners, and a few other things. (L.King) - Correct.

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But i say that a lot of people are like that,

(Female Caller) - To say that a lot of people are like that,

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i don't think that the way communication and seems to ought the people that discuss things,

I don't think that with the way communication is, and things are out in the open and people will discuss things

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and they are open when they discuss 20 years ago

in the open they wouldn't have discussed 20 years ago.

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and a lot of young people wanted to hear what they said much more that they did 20 or 30 years ago,

A lot of young people want to hear the truth these days much more than they did 20 or 30 years ago.

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i can quite agree with them.

I can't quite agree with him.

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Okay thank you. A lot.

(L.King) - Okay thank you.

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Well, we are in a moments used to some of hours, for the social scientific standards.

We are in our waning moments. How would you sum up these four hours from the social scientific standpoint?

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I think this is going to be very interesting discussion,

(???????) - think this has been a very interesting discussion,

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i think there was a lot of relevant comments from the colleagues,

I think there has been a lot of relevant comments from the callers

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and quite right on the topics, so, some quite to the point, or scientific,

on quite a variety of topics. Some quite to the point or scientific.

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and what i think doctor Fresco is a new society and presents some interesting alternatives,

I think that Doctor Fresco's new society presents some interesting alternatives.

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i think that one question i used to say some calls ago,

I think that one of the questioners 3 or 4 calls ago

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suggested that will be another program in the same panel,

suggested that there would be another program with either the same panel

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or people discussing the ways which they can change this society,

or people discussing the ways in which we can change this society.

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i think all of us, including me, are less interested in that,

I think all of us, including Neil?????? would be interested in that.

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and i think that is a quite interesting topic,

I think that's quite an interesting topic

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because that many things you can do to change our society in the next few years.

because there are many things we can do to change our society in the next few years.

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Well, i hope to prevent the all that caused, doctor Fresco hopes that comes too, and predicts.

(L.King) - Well, I hope to prevent the holocaust but... Doctor Fresco hopes that ???????????? predicts.

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How could you some of the anthropological view?

How would you sum it up, Virginia, from the anthropological view?

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I agree that this was being very interesting number of calls,

(V.Hine) - I would agree that it's been very interesting. I think the number of calls

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and the obviously interesting questions from people,

and the obvious sincerity and interest in which the people

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spoke that suggest interesting college too.

spoke would suggest that it's been interesting to others too.

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I think one of the things that were far about this were we are being trying about one belief system,

I think one of the things that has been fun about this is that here we've been talking about one belief system.

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if you want to look at that way,

If you want to look at that way.

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one view of our desirable future will be,

One view of what our desirable future would be

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and our society responding these, many of these kinds of ideas about how the future should be,

and our society is spawning these; many of these kinds of ideas about what the future should be.

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i think that there is, Jacque is along the planned society concept,

I think that yours, Jacque, is along the planned society concept.

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there are other people who are envisioning future of society too,

There are other people who are envisioning future societies too

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who started with absolutely certainly assumptions of yours, and they build there are desirable.

who would start with absolutely separate assumptions from yours, and they build there desirable.

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There are in between people who are actually experimenting,

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were not only designing ideologically, but actually living in an experiment,

who are not just designing them ideologically, but actually living them and experimenting in them.

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to me it is the excitement of this evolutionary thing that you ar working in.

To me this is the excitement of this evolutionary stage that we are in.

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Doctor Fresco, you caused excitement where you go.

(L.King) - Doctor Fresco, you've caused excitement wherever you go.

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That's seems interesting that people think, you know...

(J.Fresco) - That's the intention, to make people think about things.

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... around seeing your films and trying to get and see it too, because it is a fundamental thing.

(L.King) -I look forward to seeing your films and I'm going to try and get Jackie to see them too because I know she'll find them interesting.

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And great pleasure having you on, and thank you, i'll do it again.

Great pleasure having you on and I thank you and we'll do it again.

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Thank you, it was a pleasure. Our guest has being doctor Jacque Fresco.

Thank you, it's been a privilege. (L.King) - Our guests have been Doctor Jacque Fresco.

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He is the founder of Sociocyberneering.

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You want more information, you can contact during the day, 4432895, 4432895.

If you want more information, you can contact them during the day, 4432895, 4432895.

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Virginia hide instructor and research anthropologist,

Virginia Hine, instructor and research anthropologist.

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Roland J. Dubler social scientist,

?????? J. Doubler, social scientist.

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and early with us for 3 and half hours,

Earlier with us for 3 and a half hours,

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turning informer prosecuted of the U.S. office in outside.

the attorney and former chief prosecutor of the U.S. attorney's office, Neil ?????.

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It is WYND Miami, you have a public service message, and then Henry Barrow 5 o'clock news.

This is WIOD Miami, we'll have a public service message, and then Henry Barrow 5 o'clock news.

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A Rockefeller study for a, studying the commission studying for a new society.

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All right, you know, so about the how much were called,

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that is what i know i'm really with them at most,

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is the people that are coming to us,

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doctor Fresco, can you eliminate the human beings desire

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for example where we came from, and things like that.

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And what is going to happen to me tomorrow? Can you eliminate that?

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Thinking to appropriated medication you can,

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we don't want to eliminate it, we just want to enable people to be able to hypothesize,

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or perhaps reconstruct the extrapolate the origin of the world we live in, and so the system and so.

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For a basis may live from religion what this people are.

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No think on people were educated on adequate and need things.

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And also saw that effect of people would live forever.

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I said that is a possibility.

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That would be like (?), somebody that live forever.

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I don't know, he was being alienated in their own spot.

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I can't think at a negative aspect, but i say some also of doubt by taking.

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I realized that anything is possible. But what about the actual population live on planet and...

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Okay, so we have a missed show. Thanks. Okay. Hello.

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Hello, Larry. Yes. That's fine. Fine.

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I'm (?) because i heard (?) this one,

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Do you say that your average in respect?

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Someone might give you back a dollar, and you get five, and next week you run away?

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and i felt that was usually interesting?

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they can't see things on what they really are.

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to me it is the excitement of this evolutionary thing that you ar working in.

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Doctor Fresco, you caused excitement where you go.

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And great pleasure having you on, and thank you, i'll do it again.

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Thank you, it was a pleasure. Our guest has being doctor Jacque Fresco.

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Virginia hide instructor and research anthropologist,

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turning informer prosecuted of the U.S. office in outside.

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It is WYND Miami, you have a public service message, and then Henry Barrow 5 o'clock news.

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(L.King) - A Rockefeller study, as a study,the commission group doing a  study for a new society.

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(Male Caller) - The other thing is he's very much against the occult.

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the people turning to astrology.

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Doctor Fresco, can you eliminate the human being's desire

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to find out those things which he can not answer?

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For example where we came from, what happens after we die, and things like that.

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What's going to happen to me tomorrow? Can you eliminate that?

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(J.Fresco) - I think to appropriate mis-ineducation you can.

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We don't want to eliminate it. We just want to enable people to be able to hypothesize

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or perhaps reconstruct or extrapolate the origin of the world we live in, the solar sytem and so on.

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(Male Caller) - The basis mainly isn't it for religions and things like this so that people are...

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(J.Fresco) - No, I think people are educated on the whole to be inadequate and need things.

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I think I'd like to see them off on their own.

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(Male Caller) - You also said in the future you think that people will live forever.

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(J.Fresco) - I said that's a possibility.

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(Male Caller) - Have you ever thought of the negative aspects of that?

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(J.Fresco) - Yes, I have. I know I don't think...

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(Male Caller) - What would happen with a guy like Hitler; somebody who could live forever?

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(L.King) - I don't know. He'd have been annihilated in the onslaught.

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I can think of the negative aspects but I'll tell you something. Off the top I'd take it.

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(Male Caller) - I realize that anything is possible but what about the overpopulation? Would you just move to different planets?

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(J.Fresco) - I really can't go beyond that, Sir.

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(Male Caller) -Surely it will be awfully crowded a couple of hundred years from now.

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(L.King) - Okay, so we'll have a mass show. Thanks. Hello?

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(Female caller) - Hello, Larry, how are you this morning? (L.King) - Fine.

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(Female caller) - I called for this reason because I heard the gentleman that was on before this one.

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To say that everybody that sees doesn't see people for what they are. I think it's very false.

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(L.King) - He didn't say everybody. (Female caller) - Well, because I never judge people on what they look like.

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I judge them on how they keep their word and what they do, not by what they look like.

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(L.King) - Do you say that you're average in that respect?

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(Female Caller) - I know quite a few people that do that. I'll loan anybody a nickle to a dollar

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just to find out if they remember to keep their word to pay it back because it's worth that little bit of money.

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(L.King) - That's like you're running a test.

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(Female Caller) - No, I mean you work hard for your money. It's not a test but...

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(L.King) - Someone might give you back a dollar to get five next week and run away.

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(Female Caller) - What I'm saying basically is you can find out a lot about people just by that because I don't loan people...

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(L.King) - Wouldn't you certainly say that you respected the gentleman's thoughts?

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The gentleman has gone blind, and felt he found a better life for himself.

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I felt that was usually interesting.

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(Female Caller) - No, I don't mean that. I mean the point is to say that people are all blind.

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They can't see things for what they really are.

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(L.King) - He didn't say that. He said most people, and I would tend to agree with him.

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(Female Caller) - You could say most people had bad manners, and a few other things. (L.King) - Correct.

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(Female Caller) - To say that a lot of people are like that,

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I don't think that with the way communication is, and things are out in the open and people will discuss things

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in the open they wouldn't have discussed 20 years ago.

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A lot of young people want to hear the truth these days much more than they did 20 or 30 years ago.

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I can't quite agree with him.

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(L.King) - Okay thank you.

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We are in our waning moments. How would you sum up these four hours from the social scientific standpoint?

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(???????) -  think this has been a very interesting discussion,

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I think there has been a lot of relevant comments from the callers

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on quite a variety of topics. Some quite to the point or scientific.

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I think that Doctor Fresco's new society presents some interesting alternatives.

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I think that one of the questioners 3 or 4 calls ago

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suggested that there would be another program with either the same panel

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or people discussing the ways in which we can change this society.

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I think all of us, including Neil?????? would be interested in that.

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I think that's quite an interesting topic

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because there are many things we can do to change our society in the next few years.

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(L.King) - Well, I hope to prevent the holocaust but... Doctor Fresco hopes that ???????????? predicts.

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How would you sum it up, Virginia, from the anthropological view?

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(V.Hine) - I would agree that it's been very interesting. I think the number of calls

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and the obvious sincerity and interest in which the people

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spoke would suggest that it's been interesting to others too.

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I think one of the things that has been fun about this is that here we've been talking about one belief system.

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If you want to look at that way.

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One view of what our desirable future would be

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and our society is spawning these; many of these kinds of ideas about what the future should be.

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I think that yours, Jacque, is along the planned society concept.

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There are other people who are envisioning future societies too

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who would start with absolutely separate assumptions from yours, and they build there desirable.

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There are in between people who are actually experimenting,

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who are not just designing them ideologically, but actually living them and experimenting in them.

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To me this is the excitement of this evolutionary stage that we are in.

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(L.King) - Doctor Fresco, you've caused excitement wherever you go.

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(J.Fresco) - That's the intention, to make people think about things.

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(L.King) -I look forward to seeing your films and I'm going to try and get Jackie to see them too because I know she'll find them interesting.

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Great pleasure having you on and I thank you and we'll do it again.

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Thank you, it's been a privilege. (L.King) - Our guests have been Doctor Jacque Fresco.

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He is the founder of Sociocyberneering.

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If you want more information, you can contact them during the day, 4432895, 4432895.

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Virginia Hine, instructor and research anthropologist.

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?????? J. Doubler, social scientist.

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Earlier with us for 3 and a half hours,

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the attorney and former chief prosecutor of the U.S. attorney's office, Neil ?????.

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