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"Art Merril Show", WIOD radio
"Art Merril Show", WIOD radio
with guest Jacque Fresco, 1973.
with guest Jacque Fresco, 1973.


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We are told in all good books
We are told in all good books


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that the body is the shell,
that the body is the shell,


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that the soul dwells in the body.
that the soul dwells in the body.


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And when the shell comes to an end
And when the shell comes to an end


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the soul leaves and takes on a higher
the soul leaves and takes on a higher
form of life for some people.
form of life for some people.


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And then we take this shell and we put it
And then we take this shell
in a three thousand dollar mahogany box.
and we put it


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in a three thousand dollar
mahogany box.

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Soft foam lining there that you
Soft foam lining in there that you
never had when you were alive.
never had when you were alive.


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And then you age a motorcycle escort when
And then you age a motorcycle escort when
you don’t need it at all, on the last journey.
you don’t need it at all, on the last journey.


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Look at the people standing around and watering
Look at the people standing around and watering
the tombstone and all that sort of things.
the tombstone and all that sort of things.


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Look at the fuss made over the shell.
Look at the fuss made over the shell.


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Why the weeping and the sadness?
Why the weeping and the sadness?


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Listen carefully.
Listen carefully.


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You’re afraid.
You’re afraid.


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You really don’t believe.
You really don’t believe.


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You’re hypocrites most of you.
You’re hypocrites most of you.


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We are told that Jesus had come into town and he was a radical
We are told that Jesus had come into town and he was a radical


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and he threatened their institutions
and he threatened their institutions


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and they crucified him because he
and they crucified him because he
was a threat to an existing system.
was a threat to an existing system.


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He tried to say there were
He tried to say there were
lots of people out there
lots of people out there


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that tended to go along with
that tended to go along with
things as they were.
things as they were.


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They were part of the establishment
They were part of the establishment


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who Jesus said where the hypocrites.
who Jesus said were the hypocrites.


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They were in high places
They were in high places


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and a lot of them wear white
and a lot of them wear white
collar and they wear robes
collars and they wear robes


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and they speak in a very profound way,
and they speak in a very profound way,
and yet they are hypocrites.
and yet they are hypocrites.


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They are proud of their temples and their
They are proud of their temples and their
churches and their synagogues
churches and their synagogues


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and they have forgotten completely
and they have forgotten completely
about the brotherhood of man.
about the brotherhood of man.


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And your society is not that different.
And your society is not that different.


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A breakdown of intellect and a breakdown of inquiry
A breakdown of intellect and a breakdown of inquiry


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and magic substituting
and magic substituting


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and Eastern philosophy...
and Eastern philosophy...


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Men are searching ...
Men are searching ...


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and their getting off the real world.
and they're getting off the real world.
- Are they searching or
- Are they searching or


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are they running away?
are they running away?
- They’re running away,
- They’re running away,


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and hiding in something else... - And hiding in...
and hiding in something else... - And hiding in...
- To get away from reality.
- To get away from reality.


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- They can’t take it.
- They can’t take it.
It’s rough.
It’s rough.


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When you live with someone who you believe you love
When you live with someone who you believe you love
and then the divorce comes into the picture,
and then the divorce comes into the picture,


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and people get sick in your family, you can’t
and people get sick in your family, you can’t
count on material things they seem to fall away.
count on material things they seem to fall away.


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That’s because you're looking for justice;
That’s because you're looking for justice;
your given a false package.
you´re given a false package.


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You’re told “if you give all the world all the best
You’re told “if you give all the world all the best
that you have the best will come back to you”
that you have the best will come back to you”


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and it doesn’t work that way. It didn’t work
and it doesn’t work that way. It didn’t work
for Jesus, it didn’t work for Gandhi.
for Jesus, it didn’t work for Gandhi.


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In the real world anything can happen.
In the real world anything can happen.


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Your major newspapers talk of the marvel of
Your major newspapers talk of the marvels of
the technical and scientific achievements
the technical and scientific achievements


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and yet they have a page on astrology,
and yet they have a page on astrology,


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which really belongs in the middle ages,
which really belongs in the middle ages,


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which we are at the tail end of.
which we are at the tail end of.


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And there are people that take to that they
And there are people that take to that they
really think that is such a thing as astrology.
really think there is such a thing as astrology.


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They think the stars govern their lives.
They think the stars govern their lives.


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And so you see flying saucers and magic.
And so you see flying saucers and magic.


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Magic means violation of natural law.
Magic means violation of natural law.


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Do you think god would have gravity
Do you think god would have gravity
and then change his mind?
and then change his mind?


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Do you think that in god’s infinite or divine wisdom
Do you think that in God’s infinite or divine wisdom


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he designs a system of an interrelationship and the correlation of the space time continuum
he designs a system of an interrelationship and correlation of the space time continuum


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and then varies that natural law?
and then varies that natural law?


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Of course not.
Of course not.


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And the story of temptation
And the story of temptation
is a senseless story.
is a senseless story.


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Consider this
Consider this


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that Jesus goes up to a mountain
that Jesus goes up to a mountain
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top and Satan says to him


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“How would you like kingdom over the earth?"
“How would you like kingdom over the earth?"


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And he says, "Get thee behind me."
And he says, "Get thee behind me."


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Imagine, "If you’ve know God,
Imagine, "If you’ve known God,
there is no temptation."
there is no temptation."


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It is only the hypocrite that is tempted.
It is only the hypocrite that is tempted.


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It is only the phony that is tempted,
It is only the phoney that is tempted,


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that no real Christian or Mohammedan,
that no real Christian or Mohammedan,
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will be ever tempted if they
will be ever tempted if they
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really believe in God.


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If Christ existed and if he said these thing,
If Christ existed and if he said these thing,
I tend to go along with this concept.
I tend to go along with this concept.


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He said during the ascension,
He said during the ascension,


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"Ye shall do even greater things than I".
"Ye shall do even greater things than I".


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He walked on water. Man walks in space
He walked on water. Man walks in space
and he walked on the moon.
and he walked on the moon.


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Jesus brought Lazarus back from the dead,
Jesus brought Lazarus back from the dead,
books say that he did this.
books say that he did this.


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Men like Pasture, and Madam Curie, made it possible
Men like Pasture, Madam Curie, make it possible
for millions of people to be alive, not one.
for millions of people to be alive, not one.


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By the way if they understood Christianity
By the way if they understand Christianity
nothing would anger them.
nothing would anger them.


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If a man broke into your home you would feed him and cloth him
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and feel "there but for the grace of God go I".
and feel "there but for the grace of God go I".


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I’m not pushing Christianity.
I’m not pushing Christianity.


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All I’m saying is if you want a better world,
All I’m saying is if you want a better world,
you have to get out and make it.
you have to get out and make it.


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2018 The Venus Project
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